Don't give away the shmoo, Larry. You see, Chouquette, what we do here every day is play a fine game among ourselves of "who can guess the most outrageous bug" with an intricate kind of scoring system based on kudos. We really love getting into the most obscure examples, and first prize is hitting upon that near impossible-to-guess gem before anyone else does. We really hate if some oaf comes along and make this job trivially easy by posting, oh I don't know, actual code perhaps, or maybe input and physical output from a script. It's so frustrating when someone just opens up the guts of their problem, laying the fault bare for all to see and robbing us of that pleasure of finding out the hard way. Never make it easy - We live for the puzzle! ##NOCODE